Last night there was a meeting about clinicals. I didn't get to go... I was busy playing with orphans, cooking dinner, watching crabs race, and a gorgeous fireworks display on Grand Anse Beach, but Lee of course went. He said it was kind of a waste of time because we have already done so much research on the clinical process he didn't learn any new information but I thought I'd share with you what we through to be important:
1. There are 4 main "clinical centers" - New York, New Jersey, Detroit, and Bakersfield California.
Clinical Centers are places where you can do your entire 2 years of rotations in one spot. When I say New York and New Jersey there are multiple clinical centers within these states, but only 1 in Detroit and 1 in Bakersfield.
2. There are several other places you can do clinicals, but these require moving around from city to city or to different hospitals, not ideal for a married couple or a spouse like me who needs a job! Other areas include: Florida, San Diego, Maryland, and others within New York and Jersey.
3. People who did the GSP NewCastle Program cannot go to New Jersey (I also learned from Amber that you cannot pump your own gas in New Jersey.lol)
4. There are only 16 spots in Detroit! Yikes! That's a lot of competition for Lee and I to get in!! He's in a class of 500some and I'm positive way more than 16 want Detroit.
5. Only people who started in January and/or finish in December can go to Bakersfield and you must have a 3.2 GPA.
5. Detroit and Bakersfield are the only spots that care about GPA or USMLE scores.
6. Things they do give preference for : married couples, kids, where you are from, job options for spouse, family close by, pets, and things like that.
7. They may only give you a 2 week notice before you start your clinicals! They told Lee's class they'd know by April 16th and they may start May 1st!
8. Having all your shots and medical records up to date are important to speed up the process, so is taking the USMLE earlier than other people. The sooner they have all your information the sooner they can place you!
9. The average (SGU) student needs/takes 8 weeks to study for the USMLE.
10. The average SGU student does better than the average US medical student on the USMLE.
11. Last term 26% of the class got above a 240 on the USMLE, which is awesome!!
12. You get to put 3 places down that you'd prefer to go. They now do it by State, not town, hospital, etc.
Lee and I's 3 choices are as follows:
#1 - Detroit, Michigan - St. John's Hospital. Reasons - Lee is Canadian, it is close to the boarder, he could easily cross over if something is wrong medically or a Visa issue, I am from Ohio it is close to Ohio, Lee's family is close by in Toronto, Lee has a cousin in Windsor, I have lots of family nearby in Northern Ohio, we are very financially strapped and Detroit has a much lower cost of living than say New York.
My reasons for wanting Detroit - I really want to work in an underprivileged area and I think that Detroit is the perfect place
#2 - Bakersfield, California - Kern Medical Center. Reasons - we really don't want to go to New Jersey or New York (ok that's not really what we're going to tell SGU but that's the real reason)
#3 - Any Clinical Center, meaning anywhere we can do the full 2 years without moving - SGU please don't send us to New Jersey... but if you do, at least we'll be with lots of friends...
Here is the list of hospitals available to us for Spring 2012
Spring 2012 Hospitals for present 5th
Term students:
Location
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Cores
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Comments
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New York
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Brooklyn
Hospital Center
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IM, OB, PD, S, P
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P –Metropolitan Hospital Center
FM
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Coney Island
Hospital
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IM, OB, PD, S, P
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P - Maimonides Medical Center
EM
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Flushing
Medical Center
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IM, OB, PD, S
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FM – Brooklyn Hospital Center
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Jamaica Hospital & Medical Center
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IM, OB, PD, S, P
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FM – Brooklyn Hospital Center
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Lincoln Medical & Mental Health Center/Brooklyn
Hospital Center/Woodhull Medical and Mental Health Center
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IM, OB, PD, P, S
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S – Woodhull Medical and Mental Health Center
FM – Brooklyn Hospital Center
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Mount Vernon
Hospital
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IM
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Richmond University Medical Center
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IM, OB, PD, S, P
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FM – Brooklyn Hospital Center
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Sound Shore Medical
Center of Westchester
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IM, PD
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FM
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New Jersey
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Jersey City
Medical Center
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IM, OB, S
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ATYR
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Monmouth
Medical Center
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IM, OB, PD, S
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ATYR
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St. Barnabas Medical Center/Newark Beth Israel Medical
Center/Bergen Regional Medical Center
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IM, OB, PD, S, P
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Students should expect to complete rotations at all 3
locations.
ATYR
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St. Joseph’s Regional Medical Center
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IM, OB, PD, S, P
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FM
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St. Michael’s Medical Center/Trinitas Regional Medical
Center/St. Joseph’s Regional Medical Center
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IM, OB, PD, P
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P – Trinitas Regional Medical Center
Ob & PD – St. Joseph’s Regional Medical Center
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Michigan
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St. John Hospital & Medical Center/Providence Hospital
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IM, OB, PD, S, P
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P – Providence Hospital ( limited availability )
FM
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California
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Arrowhead Regional Medical Center
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S
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FM
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Kern
Medical Center
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IM, OB, PD, S, P
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PD – Under FM residency umbrella.
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San Joaquin
General Hospital
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IM, S
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FM (limited availability)
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Florida
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Cleveland Clinic/Miami Children’s Hospital/Queens Hospital
Center/Lutheran Medical Center
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IM, PD, OB, S, P
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PD – Miami Children’s Hospital
OB & P – Queens Hospital Center
S – Lutheran Medical Center
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Maryland
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Spring Grove Hospital/Holy Cross Hospital
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P, OB
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UK Start Dates
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January 30, 2012
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IM Medicine FM – Family Medicine
OB Ob/Gyn
EM
– Emergency Medicine
P Psychiatry
Say a prayer for us that we are sent to Detroit!
7 comments:
I hope you get placed here! I actually don't think a ton of people want Detroit. So many people are from the NY/NJ area/East Coast, and I think a lot of them want to stay in that area. For us, it was a big help that we're from Wisconsin - I think they definitely took proximity to family into consideration. Living is much cheaper here. A two-bedroom apartment is about $700, compared to $2000+ in NY, which I found out this weekend from a girl doing an away rotation here. Also, you'll definitely get to work with underprivileged kids here. Even if you're not trying to. Kids in the hospital with no families have asked Andy to "send his wife over to watch movies."
Thanks for this post Kelsey, it is very helpful! Do you know why Florida doesn't count as one of the main ones, it has all the rotations, or am I missing something?
Hey Julie! Yeah they don't count because it isn't all at one hospital, there are different ones that you switch around to.
Praying you all get sent to Detroit!!!!
For the Florida rotation you do Peds at Miami Childrens, a few rotations at the Cleveland clinic, FL and you also have to do a few cores in New York
Are St. John's and Providence close enough to each other that you would not need to move while in MI?
St. John's is in Harper woods and Providence is in Southfield, it's about a 30 minute drive from one to the other. They didn't even used to have psych in michigan at all, and it says limited availability so I assume a few students will have to do psych in new york/new jersey.
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